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Matt's avatar

Hey, thanks for sharing that process with us. I will stop and look at a cover and think that looks awesome, but never really think about the huge amount of deliberation and design that goes into them. I guess the best ones don’t pull you out of the moment. Thanks, Jonny.

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Jonny Cannon on Comics's avatar

The process for Five Triangles was more intuitive than usual. The back cover and end papers are very much thought out, mind you.

I agree with you and I don't think covers should necessarily indicate what's inside, so much as inviting that, 'what the fuck?' reaction. It's just about getting someone to pick up the comic.

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SweetNightmares's avatar

Interesting read, Johnny. You mentioned Jordi Bernet. Have you read any of the 'Torpedo' books? I believe your boy, Toth had a hand in the earliest iteration of the character.

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Jonny Cannon on Comics's avatar

Aye, I read the early volumes and there's an interesting history to the character. The Toth In-depth podcast discuss that a wee bit. From memory, Toth pretty much quite because he felt uncomfortable with the main character being so evil, particularly the sexual violence.

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SweetNightmares's avatar

Yeah, women don't have a good time of it. There's a lot of that in Spanish and Italian comics.

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Allan Harvey's avatar

I assume you have Steranko's CHANDLER: RED TIDE book? I've got a Spansih version that's printed in stark black and white further emphasizing its Noir esthetic.

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Jonny Cannon on Comics's avatar

I've tried to get hold of it over the years, but it's proved elusive thus far. I did manage to get his Outland adaptation, which is also dripping with sci-fi noir in a way that the film doesn't. Outland also makes me wonder if Steranko dug Williamson. On that, the Star Wars newspaper strip also has a sci-fi look. A lot of this is in the inks.

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Allan Harvey's avatar

Perhaps the fabled reprint of RED TIDE will one day appear -- probably best not to hold your breath though. The original was done as both a digest size and an "album" format -- the latter of which was literally snatched out of my hands at a comic mart back in the 90s. The OUTLAND adaptation is terrific, and again we miss out on a nice hardcover collection that's available in foreign lands. Luckily the complete Williamson STAR WARS material is easily available in a variety of editions.

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Jonny Cannon on Comics's avatar

There's something odd about Steranko's back catalogue and publishing rights. He was a publisher himself for a while, so I assume he's on top of it all. He's a mysterious guy. Now that I think about there's a degree of fool’s gold about noir, the stylistic and thematic trappings are there across a range of genres, but perhaps it has to be firmly located in crime as a genre, not just a theme or framing device. I am a sucker for neo-noir too, Chinatown, The Conversation etc, but Blade Runner dropped it into sci-fi. I need to get Williamson's adaptation of that too!

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Jonny Cannon on Comics's avatar

It turns out that I wrote about one of the Caniff strips before here: https://cannonhillcomics.substack.com/p/chekhovs-nun. I totally forgot that.

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